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	<title>Comments on: Installation of the new BMC Puma 450 watt geared bicycle hub motor</title>
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		<title>By: morgan@cycle9.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>morgan@cycle9.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 20:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just got a chance to put it on the scale.  The hub motor plus wheel combo is 10lbs 6oz, which is about 5-6 pounds less than the Crystalyte &amp; Forsen motor/wheel combos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just got a chance to put it on the scale.  The hub motor plus wheel combo is 10lbs 6oz, which is about 5-6 pounds less than the Crystalyte &amp; Forsen motor/wheel combos.</p>
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		<title>By: morgan@cycle9.com</title>
		<link>http://www.cycle9.com/blog/electric-motors/installation-of-the-new-bmc-puma-450-watt-geared-bicycle-hub-motor/comment-page-1/#comment-8</link>
		<dc:creator>morgan@cycle9.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 02:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dave,&lt;br/&gt;This is a good question that I should add to the FAQ, but briefly:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;- Front motors are generally easier to install.  No messing with gears, cog clearance, etc.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;- For a short wheelbase bike, a front motor can help with weight balance if you have a battery pack and/or your gear on the back&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;- If you have cheap, cast aluminum forks, they may not withstand the stress of a front motor.  In that case it is good to install a rear motor, or to replace your front fork with a chromoly steel one.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;- A rear motor is usually a bit more &quot;stealth&quot; for those who don&#039;t want it to be obvious that they have an electric motor&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;- Most rear motors (except BionX) are limited to 8 speeds due to clearance issues.  All the rear motors use freewheels, not cassettes.  We need to explore the potential for the BMC to accept 9 speed, but I kind of doubt that it will.  Also, rear motors don&#039;t work with a bike that has internal hub gears, like the Shimano Nexus.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;- A front motor can make the steering feel a bit heavier/slower.  With the lighter geared motors (like eZee, BMC) it is not so bad, but with heavier motors like Crystalyte and Forsen, it is noticeable.  Some people don&#039;t mind, others do.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;In the end, it really depends on your bike, and how you use the bike, to determine the front/rear installation question.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Morgan&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;ps - and yes, the KidzTandem is a lot of fun!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dave,<br />This is a good question that I should add to the FAQ, but briefly:</p>
<p>- Front motors are generally easier to install.  No messing with gears, cog clearance, etc.</p>
<p>- For a short wheelbase bike, a front motor can help with weight balance if you have a battery pack and/or your gear on the back</p>
<p>- If you have cheap, cast aluminum forks, they may not withstand the stress of a front motor.  In that case it is good to install a rear motor, or to replace your front fork with a chromoly steel one.</p>
<p>- A rear motor is usually a bit more &#8220;stealth&#8221; for those who don&#8217;t want it to be obvious that they have an electric motor</p>
<p>- Most rear motors (except BionX) are limited to 8 speeds due to clearance issues.  All the rear motors use freewheels, not cassettes.  We need to explore the potential for the BMC to accept 9 speed, but I kind of doubt that it will.  Also, rear motors don&#8217;t work with a bike that has internal hub gears, like the Shimano Nexus.</p>
<p>- A front motor can make the steering feel a bit heavier/slower.  With the lighter geared motors (like eZee, BMC) it is not so bad, but with heavier motors like Crystalyte and Forsen, it is noticeable.  Some people don&#8217;t mind, others do.</p>
<p>In the end, it really depends on your bike, and how you use the bike, to determine the front/rear installation question.</p>
<p>Morgan</p>
<p>ps &#8211; and yes, the KidzTandem is a lot of fun!</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 20:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what are the advantages/disadvantages of using the rear wheel motor versus the front?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Also, that Kidz Tandem in the shop looks very fun!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what are the advantages/disadvantages of using the rear wheel motor versus the front?</p>
<p>Also, that Kidz Tandem in the shop looks very fun!</p>
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